I realize that for the majority of people on the planet, Jehovah's Witnesses are simply irrelevant and thus they could care less what Witnesses do or do not do. In the grand scheme of things, generally..........people don't know much about them and see no reason to learn anything about them..........and that is understandable. So here I go finding myself mentioning them on this blog again..........why?..........oh I suppose you could say that there is some unfinished business......hehehe.........then again, you could also say that the world of the Watchtower is like a bad accident.......you know.......you just find yourself having to look at the mess as you drive past.As I stated, most do not know much about them.........and I would take that even farther by stating that even most of the Witnesses don't even know much about their own group. How can a say such a thing?.......well.......I have had quite a bit of experience chit-chatting with JWs for many, many years and this is what I have observed. For an example, you might want to look into some of my past entries on this blog that mention Jehovah's Witnesses and be sure to look at the comments and my responses to those comments. After reading those, I doubt that I should have to explain it any further to you.
I have written about Venus and Serena Williams before (the blog entry entitled "Jehovah's Witnesses Should Read This").............yes......the famous tennis stars.......and I can safely say that of all of the things I have written about......those particular posts have been the most popular. Don't get the idea that droves of people are interested in Venus and Serena Williams and want to see what I have to say about them.........that is not the case. As it happens, whenever somebody does a Google search and enters the names "Venus & Serena Williams" and they also include the term "Jehovah's Witnesses"........BINGO.........the will likely get a link to this blog just because I have written about them being Jehovah's Witnesses. Furthermore, just in case anyone wonders about such things, I can tell you that there are people from all over the planet that seem to perform such a search........yes, I have a blog tool that provides me with some statistics. And before anybody gets the idea that there are thousands of people coming to this blog on a daily basis to read about whether or not the Williams sisters are Jehovah's Witnesses or not..............that simply is not the case. But of the people that do happen to view this blog, the majority get here by searching for the video of "Mrs. Farting Preacher"......hehehe....go figure........and the second most popular thing appears to be the Venus and Serena Williams issues. Okay then........you may be wondering what came in third?........it's a no-brainer........people search for "the end of the world" and this blog shows up. This is just the way things are and I actually have no control over it.
Okay, so I log on and sign in to Blogger and I get myself prepared to write this and I notice that I have a comment from someone that needed to be addressed. I clicked on it and "Lo and Behold" it is a comment about one of my prior postings about Venus and Serena Williams. For the record, I accept and post all comments and the only exception would be those that have inappropriate language. Otherwise, I have always encouraged people to offer a comment, pro or con..........I can handle it........and in regards to people who happen to be Jehovah's Witnesses....well.......I really, really, really, enjoy allowing them to speak for themselves.....hehehe........after all, they always prove my points......often ultimately confirming what they initially deny.
For whatever reason, the big issue with Venus and Serena Williams is that both of them have said publicly that they are Jehovah's Witnesses. I personally see no good reason for them to lie about it and I have no good reason to not believe them. The problem is, as I have written before, that the Williams sisters participate in things and do things that the rank and file Witnesses could never get away with. Do I dislike the Williams sisters because of this?........NO. Would I like them better if they toed the line as the other JWs do?..........No. Actually, I could care less about the Williams sisters and I really, really, have no interest in tennis. I would also say I wish them no ill will. But there are issues with the Williams sisters.........and those issues are more of an issue because of who the say they are....they both say that they are Jehovah's Witnesses.....remember that.........it is their own words. The problem isn't so much that they are what they are, but moreso that the rest of the Jehovah's Witnesses appear to be a bit befuddled about them.
In the past, the Williams sisters have been seen participating in Nationalistic displays such as carrying the US flag at the Olympics.......no big deal, really, except a JW kid is not even allowed to recite the Pledge Of Allegiance at school. There is a certain level of hypocracy in play. I have suggested before that it may well be that the Williams sisters get away with what they get away with because they have quite a bit of money.............and they probably donate heavily to the Watchtower. Remember Michael Jackson?.........yep.......he was a JW too and made Christmas albums with the entire Jackson Family while being JWs........I suppose the money was rolling in to the Watchtower...........but something went awry when Michael made that Thriller video........so awry that he tried to cool the Watchtower jets by putting a disclaimer on the video that it did not reflect his beliefs. Needless to say, that didn't work. Recently, one of the Williams sisters was ticked off during a tennis match and was caught on tape offering up some choice "witnessing". People were shocked at her ferocious display of anger..........such violent behavior......very unbecoming of a JW, right?
And now the latest hubbub has been the choice of clothing on the tennis court...........clothing that was designed by her.............I can't imagine seeing Jehovah's Witnesses going to people's doors dressed like this..........but yet........if they did, they might be able to pawn off more magazines than ever. I suppose I could spell it all out here but there is a YouTube video that takes care of it all.........even to the extent that the man makes a phone call to the headquarters of the JWs, the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society in NY, to ask if Venus and Serena are Jehovah's Witnesses. I found it amusing because I have done that as well in past years. I have called Kingdom Halls and their headquarters and broadcast it to the planet on Paltalk. Nothing is better than their own words...........check out this video:
Perhaps this is what they will all be wearing in the "New System" of things..............then again..........if you call the Watchtower and ask them for the official word on it the answer you may get is "We don't know".Oh......and by the way.........remember that recent comment that needed to be addressed?.......well, here it is:
"dollface said... i got to the point to believe that you really really hate JW,and i bet you're a exJW, cos you dont dont really have a point on what your talking about,this is between serena ,her sister williams and jehova, not between you and the organization,im not a JW but i can see what's going on, you just hate them with not reason,you want people to leave JW because what the williams just did ? you're so stupid, not a JW can respond for the williams action,only the williams can."
Hmmm, so because I wrote about the Williams sisters I must really really hate JWs? That is amazing stuff. And Dollface bets that I am an "exJW"..........ROFL.......THAT is hilarious. And the reason that Dollface writes that is because I "don't really have a point on what your talking about"...........hehehe.........this is so funny.
Folks, the JWs always come up with stuff like this in regards to the Williams sisters. Rather than confirm or deny, they simply level some lame insults and then claim that everything is between the Williams sisters and Jehovah.........and let's not overlook that it was written that it is "not between you (meaning me) and the organization".............I must point out that to the JW, the organization IS Jehovah, or at the very least their organization is the equivalent. Oddly, this same commenter wouldn't make the same statement regarding the Williams sisters if it were Dollface or a member of Dollface's family doing the things like the Williams sisters do. That's about all I care to respond to. The rest of the comment is just more bilge.
For the record..........it is obvious to me that folks like Dollface are lost souls who have nothing in them to explain anything.............zero. How could anyone ever expect such to be adept at the bible?
And also, for the record, I have never been a JW nor have I ever entertained such a notion.
JWs are imperfect humans and as such are no more or less fallible than anybody else in any other religion, or secular organization for that matter. This goes from the lowliest JW Publisher to the President of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. I have heard stories of some of the famous witnesses, but everything I have heard is hearsay and I can't verify it, although some seems undeniable because of pictures and video.
ReplyDeleteI have certainly seen startling photos and videos of the Williams, Jacksons and others that make me wonder what their standing with the congregation is. If it has been swept under the rug for some reason, I believe that would be wrong. But even entire 1st Century Christian Congregations had problems and had to be counseled, so I would not blame the entire organization.
I would ask you who do you look for for spiritual guidance and how is that going? Is every affair of your life peachy perfect, or your spiritual mentors for that matter?
Noe of us JWs have been "saved" yet, and anybody practicing sin whether in secret, YouTube or your big LCD TV, will be accountable to Jehovah and will be judged by his Son Jesus Christ. As for me, I can't go bouncing off walls like a superball from once faith to another or even no faith just because you showed me a video of some famous JWs doing things that they should be disciplined for. I have sadly known several former brothers and sisters who were disfellowshipped, some of which were later reinstated.
All I can say is that you find fault with the entire organization of JWs for the failings of a few witnesses, I can only imagine the mega-faults you can find with many of the other major religions.
My guess is that you only have time enough to blog about the "one" you obviously have an issue with. No biggie, we deal with this all the time and most of us don't ever take it personally. It is Jehovah you are rejecting and not us.
Although I wish remain anonymous, you probably figured out that I am an active Jehovah's Witness, and this is the first time in my life that I ever responded to such a blog post. I would like to think that your readers will not find me wacky at all by my response, since you seem to base your negative premise of us by how we respond.
Greetings Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThanks for commenting. Needless to say, I cannot just simply publish your commentary without responding to it. So here we go......
You wrote: "JWs are imperfect humans and as such are no more or less fallible than anybody else in any other religion, or secular organization for that matter. This goes from the lowliest JW Publisher to the President of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society."
My Response: I fully expected that comment. It is somewhat "canned" at that. My guess is that every JW is taught that response. It DOES sound reasonable and nice to those who wouldn't recognize it for what it truly is.
You wrote: "I have heard stories of some of the famous witnesses, but everything I have heard is hearsay and I can't verify it, although some seems undeniable because of pictures and video."
My response: You have heard things eh? Enough that you might even do a web search regarding the Williams Sisters controversy and found yourself here......nahhhhh......maybe you were searching for end of the world stuff....hehehe.
You wrote: "I have certainly seen startling photos and videos of the Williams, Jacksons and others that make me wonder what their standing with the congregation is."
My response: So, other than searching the internet about the matter, what else have you done to get to the bottom of the issue?
You wrote: "If it has been swept under the rug for some reason, I believe that would be wrong."
My response: Hmmmmmm.....aside from it being an embarrassment......I would bet the actual REASON why all of the sweeping has been done would be the thing to find out.
You wrote: "But even entire 1st Century Christian Congregations had problems and had to be counseled, so I would not blame the entire organization."
My response: There you go again with the canned responses. The problem with that type of response is that you are taught to apply it to your organization's defense and not a witness on the planet will ever use such excuses for say.....the Catholics.....Methodists....etc....etc.
You asked: "I would ask you who do you look for for spiritual guidance and how is that going?
My response: You are three for three so far. Yet another predictable response in the guise of a question this time. (For those "out of this loop": This is an example of how Witnesses will attempt to divert the attention away from their organization and try to attack other organizations.)
You also asked: "Is every affair of your life peachy perfect, or your spiritual mentors for that matter?
My response: Nice try. Please try to address the issue at hand.
You wrote: "Noe of us JWs have been "saved" yet, and anybody practicing sin whether in secret, YouTube or your big LCD TV, will be accountable to Jehovah and will be judged by his Son Jesus Christ."
My response: Hmmmmm So Jesus will judge your organization eventually eh?.....Last I heard, Jesus was still in direct communication and directs your organization to this day......hmmm......did that all stop at some point? Is it possible that there has been "new light"? Perhaps the ultimate explanation for the Williams controversy is that the Watchtower no longer wishes to judge folks such as the Williams Sisters since Jesus will do it eventually.........hmmmmm.....try telling that to your elders:)
Greetings Anonymous,
ReplyDeletecontinued......
You wrote: "As for me, I can't go bouncing off walls like a superball from once faith to another or even no faith just because you showed me a video of some famous JWs doing things that they should be disciplined for. I have sadly known several former brothers and sisters who were disfellowshipped, some of which were later reinstated."
My response: disciplined?......I would never suggest that. What I would suggest is that your organization apologize to all of those who were reprimanded for doing far less. I would think that would be a good start.
You wrote: "All I can say is that you find fault with the entire organization of JWs for the failings of a few witnesses, I can only imagine the mega-faults you can find with many of the other major religions."
My response: Sure I could find fault with just about any religious organization, however, this particular focus is on your organization. You seem to try to imply that there have been only "a few witnesses" that have "failed" your organization. I suggest that they have NOT failed at all but may well be leading your organization to "new light". :)
You wrote: "My guess is that you only have time enough to blog about the "one" you obviously have an issue with. No biggie, we deal with this all the time and most of us don't ever take it personally. It is Jehovah you are rejecting and not us."
My response: "one"???? oh please. There are TWO Williams sisters. Nevermind Prince, the Purple Publisher, and a host of others in the same ilk. The trouble is that you folks do NOT "deal" with it. JWs either deny it or make excuses for it.....or as you have, suggest that Jesus will eventually "deal" with it. How will Jesus judge JWs who refuse to see the hypocracy for what it is?
And as is typical of JWs you cough up your rejection of Jehovah spiel. Jehovah is NOT your corporate organization. It is your corporation that I reject. Is it not your place to right wrongs?......to fix what is broken?........or maybe you are like the man in the joke about a flood who keeps waiting for God to "save" him never realizing that God had sent several rescuers his way.
You wrote: "Although I wish remain anonymous, you probably figured out that I am an active Jehovah's Witness, and this is the first time in my life that I ever responded to such a blog post."
My response: Of course.....that is all obvious to me, but thanks and yes, you can take comfort that your identity is not public.
You wrote: "I would like to think that your readers will not find me wacky at all by my response, since you seem to base your negative premise of us by how we respond."
My response: As you surely know, the readers here will "judge" everything that they read. You are mistaken though that I "judge" your organization by how JWs respond. What I do judge is how the Watchtower corporation responds or doesn't respond. I contend that nothing goes farther to prove any points I have regarding JWs and the Watchtower and the mindset that JWs have, than their own words.
Thanks again for commenting.